There has been some remarks about my designs being FSDesign rather than FSLace and I went back 28 pages to find the orgin of FSD. It was Meganne who brought this to my attention and I agree with her that a FSL base can contain full cover stitching to change it to a FSD. The only reason I make my designs on a FSL base is so they will wash and become stiff and I think they look great too LOL So do we all agree now that we have a new type of design, Free Standing Design!! he he

Free Standing Lace designs are digitized in such a way that when the water soluble stabilizer is washed out of the designs the stitches all hold together.
It doesn't matter how many layers of stitches the design has or how many stitches it has in total.

It doesn't matter if the design is a more open type or fully covered in stitches.

Usually there is a base of stitches that form a contiuous grid that all other stitches in the design stitch over top of in one or more layers to form the design.

You can make regular embroidery designs into a Free Standing Designs by simply stitching them on Tulle or Organza fabric and then cutting away the excess fabric from around the design.
This is not the same as Free Standing Lace!

Dollygk your designs in question are Free Standing Lace Designs!

EastWitch2

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by dollygk 04 Sep 2012

Thank you EastWitch2 for this,(who is EastWitch1?), so I simply use FSL from now on? As long as the Cuties are happy with them I'll keep adding what ever I come up with LOL

by jofrog2000 04 Sep 2012

Phew, I'm not a lone voice in the wilderness :). One can see it's more covered and how many stitches it takes and still know how to sew it.

Thanks, I really don't understand but the design is great. Arlene

Why not just call it Free Standing? After reading this whole post, I can see where confusion can set in from just initials. If someone has not read all thia, they might not try the designs. I embroider designs on organza,mirror imaged, and glue the 2 together to make a design that is not on a garment, but it is not free standing. I also have dense fsl designs that clearly let me know what materials I need to sew them properly. Aren't we here to help make this great artistic expression through embroidery easier for everyone, since there is no master manual to follow?

One of the designs in question

After all this discussion I can't wait to see the design. Can someone tell me where to go look for it? Thanks.

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by dollygk 03 Sep 2012

This is one of the designs... a Santa head
http://designsbycuties.cuteembroi...

ORIGINALITY IS THE BASIS OF GROWING. I still think this is lovely.

I think it is okay to recognize that FSL has now progressed into different types. That's typical of everything new. We have FSL Filet Crochet: it's a little different style. So, why not delineate between others types of FSL? Perhaps just FSL Full Cover would explain it. They aren't very lacy. That's how communication progresses, just like all the wonderful new ways we are using our machine embroidery machines.

Whatever its called, I love it!!! Hugs, Judy

Lace is lace. A design is a design. So FSLace and FSDesign. Does it really matter? Love them all. Shirley

If it is thread sewn on wss that washes out, no matter if it's lacy or more filled, and all that is left is thread, it is a FSL . To come up with something else to call it is just confusing, shown by the multitude of questions asking for an explanation. I've been doing this for over 12 years, and have never heard of it. Free standing design would be sewn on organza or netting for a base, instead of thread.

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by dollygk 01 Sep 2012

Jofrog, may I introduce you to Meganne? then the two of you can discuss this then let me know he he I'm still learning and loving it!!!

I'm glad we have people like you who are so creative! Great designs!

Thank you for clearing up the confusion...we all LOVE new innovators! ~Rita

Well you are allowed to call it whatever you like ,and i like it :):):)hugs

I don't understand what you are talking about. Do you mean that you do a FSL design onto fabric to use like a regular design? Hope I can get back to this question to find out the answer. Without my tabs to check mark things I can't find them again. Please, someone get back the check mark tabs!

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by dollygk 31 Aug 2012

NO, just like FSL I use two layers of stabelizer and the first stitching is a FSL base but the top stitching is a very light set of stitches covering all or the majority of the design. Got it?? he he

by leenova54 31 Aug 2012

no. lol. Wouldn't covering the design with more stitches ruin the look of the design? Are you basically making it heavier? What color would you cover the original with? Sorry that I don't understand it.

by leenova54 31 Aug 2012

Or are you taking a regular design that would go on fabric and then covering it to make it FSL? I am not getting it.

by dollygk 01 Sep 2012

In essance I am making a FSL design on wash away stabelizer BUT it is completely covered with stitching as IF it were a normal embroidery design and when it is removed from the 2 layers of WSS and washed, it becomes stiff and stands alone. When I edit the stitches I remove all the base stitching of the colored stitching to prevent it from becoming too thick and heavy, this leaves long continueous lines of stitches which just covers the FSL base.
I am using a base color to match the majority of the stitches or just using white, as in the Santa face.
I hope this clears it up..... I hope you got it now??

by dollygk 02 Sep 2012

When I edit the stitches I remove all the base stitching of the colored stitching to prevent it from becoming too thick and heavy, this leaves long continueous lines of stitches which just covers the FSL base.
I am using a base color to match the majority of the stitches or just using white, as in the Santa face.
I hope this clears it up..... now Yes?

by dollygk 02 Sep 2012

I am using a base color to match the majority of the stitches or just using white, as in the Santa face.
I hope this clears it up..... now Yes?

by leenova54 03 Sep 2012

I'll just let it go, I'll never understand it, lol. Thanks for all your trying though. It's just me.

by sewfrenzie 03 Sep 2012

Thanks Leenova, I am just as confused with the difference. Until this post I didn't even know there was such a thing as FSD, lol!
Since I haven't done any on my own machine, (and then only one) I wouldn't know the difference if It was sitting right in front of me, lol!
Diane

See, I AM good for something after all. hahahahahaha!

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by msfancyvip1 31 Aug 2012

Absolutely...Of course, we all know that anyway, LOL!!! ~Rita

Well of course... makes perfect sense! thanks

Now you really are making me anxious to stitch out your latest. You are an inventor. Thanks on both the design and a new technique.

Good call! Love Chris