Does anyone have a semi industrial machine like the Babylock Valiant that doesn't cost $20,000. Lol - I would love to gain the extra embroidery speed but 20k is a bit much for my pocketbook

Please don't give up your dream. I agree that you should check with your local dealer. They often have used machines that have been traded in and also have demo machines looking for an owner. Both are great deals. I bought my Babylock 10 needle through a friend who knew the person selling it. So keep looking and checking. I know your dream will come true.

You could try asking your dealer for a preloved one. Sometimes someone will buy an expensive machine and then for some reason, financial family tragedy or whatever they need to sell. I have seen some for sale(other brands) that have stitched less than100,000 stitches.

Well, that sounds like the MSRP...and no one really pays that price..You should be able to pick up one for between $10,000 and $12,000 depending upon the dealer...Brother also makes a sister machine, Melco has a 10 Needle and there are others out there...

Not heard of the machine your asking about but what speed are you asking about?