by basketkase 21 Feb 2012

Dear Cuties...I must follow up to Diana's post this morning. I am so dismayed that it has come to this. When I explained the ripple stitch, it was not my intention to diminish Diana's work, it was only to explain that it was a programmed stitch that is available to anyone who has Bernina software. I for one, encourage the growth of any digitizer & welcome anyone who wants to learn new things. Imagine if no one shared ITH techniques or FSL techniques, how boring our embroidery lives would be....... I started playing with flowers when Graycie was missing, as I lost my desire to do animals at that time. Most of these were done while she was gone except for the requested ones. When Graycie got back on her feet, I decided to share these with you. My floral interpretations are my own and not reproductions of anyone else's work. I believe I have enough of my own idea's to not have to copy anyone else's work. The use of the black background on some of the designs is to show better detail.....I noticed alot of designer ie Kara's Kreations doing that, so I will sometimes use different colors so you can see the stitches better. I have never referred to my designs as optical & never will...

Respectfully....Vicki

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by joann7657 23 Feb 2012

Love you and your designs!
Jo Ann

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basketkase by basketkase 23 Feb 2012

Thank you, Jo Ann, and right back at you!!

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by sewdoctor 23 Feb 2012

I for one do not see that you did anything wrong. If you can use a technique, USE it...No one owns a technique, especially if it is a stitch included in your software.. I really don't see what she feels she has lost, or what the cost was to her.

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by ansalu 23 Feb 2012

Vicky I hope you had a little peace and wish you a weekend full of family friends and sunshine to relax.
Cuddle your sweet kiddies from me :o)
Greetings, Bettina

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by juanitadenney 22 Feb 2012

I do not understand what is going on and thought you could give away designs that you digitize.

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tilde01 by tilde01 22 Feb 2012

you can as long as the subject is not copyrighted, ie: Disney designs, etc. and the artwork is your original artwork or your purchased the artwork from the artists. When in doubt don't share.

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by bevgrift 22 Feb 2012

My PE-design program has these fill stitches:
Concentric circle; Radial and Spiral.
I have digitized them on a lot of my own designs and also used them for my quilt lables and lettering.
Happy Stitching
From Bev

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by lidiad 22 Feb 2012

Dear Vicki, I'm so sorry about this situation. Both you and Diana are very dear to all of us and we have appreciated all the designs you two have made available to us. We were very pleased to know that you two were friends, one helping the other. Each of you has a distinctive way of digitising and I can distinguish which is which, even when you use the same pattern-stitch for your designs. What has happened is unfortunate and regrettable. I hope that in time the two of you can return to be friends again, it's not impossibile, I have seen people close to me fighting and becoming enemies, but after a while they have returned friends again. Many times we say or do things without thinking enough about other people feelings. It happened to me in the past, and have regretted all my life. Little things that become huge. I hope that the two of you may understand the other better and forgive. Love and hugs, Lidia

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by katydid 21 Feb 2012

I do not understand what is going on

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by drro 21 Feb 2012

Dear Vicki, I am praying for peace for you and resolve in this matter..God Bless you and give you calm days ahead and strength for the process;>) Hugs! PS: I love your work and do so appreciate your generosity and the abundance with which you share!

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by cj2sew 21 Feb 2012

I feel like I've come late. I'm sorry. I thought Diane was upset for someone stealing her designs and selling them as their own. I thought I remembered a design that you both worked together on. You both have created your own unique designs. You both have such a talent and an eye for beauty but, I can see differences in your styles. Hopefully time can heal the problems you both are facing. May the Lord heal both your hearts.

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by mommajo 21 Feb 2012

Vicki, thank you for sharing so freely with us. I too have the software but it takes a long time to get to to the level of the people who make the beautiful designs that you all do. I am sorry that things have gotten so out of hand. I agree if it is a problem between two people they should handle it them self's. I love you both.

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basketkase by basketkase 21 Feb 2012

Thank you, Mommajo!!

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by devon 21 Feb 2012

Thanks for all you do. I really love your designs. DeVon

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by basketkase 21 Feb 2012

OK, cuties, because there is so much confusion regarding this mess, I will only say this and then I would like to move on as it is painful.....did not want to air this publicly as I did not feel you all need to know there were creative differences and involve you all like this & get the whole community upset....I was directly accused of revealing the stitch technique of the ripple designs which I did when someone asked how the effect was acheived. This website is suppose to be a place to learn & grow and I thought I was being helpful. After all the technique is a built in preprogrammed stitch feature of the bernina digitizing software that anyone who has it can use and there are tutorials all over the web on how to use it....that said I was also accused of stealing the technique...I did not steal anyones technique, I simply used the ripple stitch feature that came with my software program. So that is it in a nutshell......... I refuse to not use any features that came with my software just because someone else is using the same feature. Enough said....
Thank you for all who support this freedom of use..
Vicki

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bowlds by bowlds 21 Feb 2012

Well said Vicki. Love your designs and your spirit!

mjdg by mjdg 21 Feb 2012

I finally did go back and read some posts and it seems to me to be a huge misunderstanding......
I am one that is quilty of mixing up the names "optical" and "ripple". I have not posted anything like that but I have some noted wrong in my album of designs.
:(

Now... what is done is done....I don't think you meant any harm....I think barba is right about what happened.

MJDG

mjdg by mjdg 21 Feb 2012

(I hate when I can't finish a reply!)

--of designs. I don't think you meant any harm. What is done is done. I think barba is right about what happened.
Just my opinion.
MJDG

joann7657 by joann7657 23 Feb 2012

OH, I thought someone made products from designs and sold them as their own. I am glad for all the talent on this site. Thank you all.

basketkase by basketkase 23 Feb 2012

No, please, as I stated, I was directly accused of stealing this technique through a PM...there is no misunderstanding and I am not the one who has a problem if someone does not use the proper name for said designs...please let's let this go...NO ONE is quilty of anything here!! There is nothing at all to be sorry for.....Peace & Love!!

basketkase by basketkase 23 Feb 2012

quilty of anything here!! There is nothing at all to be sorry for.....Peace & Love!!

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by barba 21 Feb 2012

After reading again, I think the comment: 'The only way I know to replicate the artwork of the Optical or Ripple stitch is stitch an Angelbaby811 or Basketkase design. Otherwise, try it freehand with a free motion foot and see what you come up with.' is what really offended. I think this was an innocent comment saying that these designers are so talented that the only way to get designs with this stitchdone so perfectly is to stitch their design. It does not say to steal their designs it says to stitch their design.

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barba by barba 21 Feb 2012

I love both designers and their designs. Sure hope this can be resolved. A BIG thank you to all you both have shared.

bumblebee by bumblebee 21 Feb 2012

I found the comment and thats how I took it.

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by barba 21 Feb 2012

I am totally confused. I just read (I think) the offending posts and I do not understand how someone can claim a technique as belonging solely to them if the stitch is included in Bernina software available to anyone who purchases it! The way you use the stitch is up to the purchaser of the software. Blessings and prayers for friendship to overcome this misunderstanding.

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by gerryvb 21 Feb 2012

I think Diana meant this post, and not your designs or explanation. You both make beautiful designs!

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sewfrenzie by sewfrenzie 21 Feb 2012

I am glad to see I am not the only one who believes this. I just hope this does not destroy these two lovely digitizers friendship.
Diane

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by susiesembroidery 21 Feb 2012

Dear Vicki, I am truly amazed that it is YOU that was referred to, since I thought others were stealing her ideas. Sorry to hear that you are now in a fight over what, in my opinion, was completely different work. Both your designs are lovely and well thought through. I hope that you both can resolve the issue. We need creative people, such as yourselves, or otherwise nothing different will ever surface in the embroidery world. Chin up and thank you very much for your really special and lovely designs. They definately look different from Dianna's. ***

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by pennifold 21 Feb 2012

Oh! Vicki, I hope this can all be sorted out. Hugs and love to you too. Love Chris

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by kryztyna 21 Feb 2012

Impressionist painters? Cubists, pointilism all more than one of and all great in their own right. An artist is an artist, each one bringing their own unique essence and will always stand out from the wanna be's. However, it is only by trying to copy the great masters that a unique and individual style is learnt. Be proud to be sought after for your excellence, but be honoured that others find you worthy to immitate. Thank you both for sharing your remarkable work with us. It allows us to grow too. Love and Blessings, Christine, Johannesburg

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by hightechgrammy 21 Feb 2012

Oh No! I just logged in and something terrible has happened between two of my dearest cutie friends. There has to have been some misunderstanding. It makes my heart just hurt because these are two very dear, very loving people. hugs of healing, Jan

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basketkase by basketkase 21 Feb 2012

Yes, Jan this is a very sad situation to be in. My nerves are frayed over this and it should NEVER have happened. I, too thought Diana & I were friends, but she made it perfectly clear in a PM how she felt & what she was accusing me of and it is unforgivable....thank you for the hugs of healing, this needs to get behind us all...I've had it!!
Love ya..Vicki

basketkase by basketkase 21 Feb 2012

unforgivable...enough said...this needs to get behind us and we need to stop this as I tried to keep it all private, until I saw the post this morning....

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by bumblebee 21 Feb 2012

I decided to google "digitizing ripple stitch" and right off 2 videos on youtube explaining the Bernina technique on youtube. Very nice Bernina software.Its a manipulated fill stitch from what I see-very cool indeed.

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basketkase by basketkase 21 Feb 2012

That's right, Linda, it is indeed cool and anyone with Bernina software has paid to use it & the youtube tutorials are fantastic, it is a valuable tool in learning this stitch...

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by mjdg 21 Feb 2012

I have no idea what this is all about and am not going to read every answer to try to find out.....just saying I love all these optical/ripple/ or by any other name designs and do so appreciate you giving them freely.

I for sure could not do it...... and am anxious to get the time to sew some of them out.

MJDG

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by trovato 21 Feb 2012

Well I'm confused what is goïg on here. I thought you where friends who did things together a now and than. I love to learn how to do the techniques but don't know how, but if I see what is going on after mabey I should not do it. I hope that both you 2 will go on with the great work you are doing and love to try th things you share.
Thanks for all lovely designs you gave us and please don't stop.
Hugs Yvonne

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basketkase by basketkase 21 Feb 2012

Yvonne, this is a place to learn & grow and I certainly do NOT have a problem with anyone playing with any stitches to create designs. I have no copy write to any stitches that are programmed into any software & welcome anyone to let their creative juices flow!!

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by rw9340 21 Feb 2012

I love yours and Dianes designs you are both talented and caring to give your designs so freely. I think the person that ask the questions is new to Cuties and did not know that the designs name was called Optical by Diane. I hate it so much that you and Diane cannot discuss this matter among each other and work things out. Anyone can play around with the software if they have it and create the ripple stich from what I can understand. However, it take a talented person to created a design from it, which I am not talented as you and Diane are.

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by moonwillow 21 Feb 2012

I just have to comment..I know I am new here...But being a graphic artist and a quick study..I know that I would be able to replicate any of these designs with the proper software...Plus if you really look up "the ripple stitch" it is a crochet and knitting stitch lol..using the skew and ripple effect within your software to design an embroidery pattern is actually dif..It is just a name .. Geesh Plus as an instructor , teaching anyone a technique is part of the risk..all that is asked of my students is that they modify their work to make it thier own...chin up it just comes w the territory..

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by quail 21 Feb 2012

I love the internet for all it does. I see one of its greatest drawbacks is that of hampering some forms of communication. I see both you and Diana as generous, good-willed individuals. Can the two of you talk? Use the phone, Skype, a webcam...anything. I just cannot imagine either of you causing intentional pain to another. Whenever I'm hurt or hurt someone else, I try to talk with them. The LOVE will always show through. Then, you can both decide what to do to respect one another's wishes. Is this too simplistic?

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by sewfrenzie 21 Feb 2012

I reading through older posts I do not believe that Diana was referring to anything you have done with your designs. I truly believe what has upset her is the foolish person who suggested to copy her work in order to figure out how to do this design. I am so sorry it has come to this at all. The person asking about the ripple design or whatever asked an innocent enough question, but ONE particular person basically told her (without actually using that word) to steal one of Diana's designs. I am sure if it had been suggested to Steal (my words) your design you would be very hurt and upset by it too. My heart goes out to both of you talented ladies at this difficult time. I pray that this does not cause a rift between you two talented ladies and that things can calm down and return to some form of normalcy for you both. You both do beautiful and unique works.
Diane

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sewfrenzie by sewfrenzie 21 Feb 2012

Oh dear, I made a slight mistake here. I re-read the comment made by the "foolish" person and she suggested to steal either Diana's OR your design technique. Either way in my book to do what was suggested is stealing your work plain & simple. I realize that Diana created her design and you are using a program but the suggestion by this person is the same in my book, because I did not know that detail until later myself. I apologize for excluding you or suggesting that it was only Diana who would be hurt my such actions. My heart goes out to both of you gals and all othe digitizers this has happened to or is happening to.

cfidl by cfidl 21 Feb 2012

Thank you for explaining this. I too believe it was an innocent conversation, and wonder if other things are going on.

bumblebee by bumblebee 21 Feb 2012

I hope your right and Diana is not upset with Vicki. I haven't seen this post you speak of.

ansalu by ansalu 21 Feb 2012

Maybe sewfrenzie is able to give us the link to that post? I'm a little bit confused at the moment...

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by buffy1 21 Feb 2012

Thanks for all the beautiful designs you are sharing with all of us! We appreciate them so very much. asking questions and recieving all of the helful answers gives us the encouragement that we need.
All of the designers are AWSOME!

Janette

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basketkase by basketkase 21 Feb 2012

I agree....inspiration comes from everywhere......

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by mooie24 21 Feb 2012

Hi Vicki

I see no misunderstanding here..
I see Two beautiful caring cuties sharing there
ideas and inspiration with us and I for One am so greatful to you both.
As I digitize myself.. techniques are there to be learnt and created with your chosen softwear, We choose if we want to share or sell our designs or not.
The only taboo for me is copyrighted designs/images if I cant use them then I dont want them.
Inspiration should be cherished.
Big hugs from London
Maria xx

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basketkase by basketkase 21 Feb 2012

Maria, I couldn't agree more!! Thank you so much for understanding..all I want to do is create & share... my own artwork with my own stitches from my own software... nothing more

mooie24 by mooie24 21 Feb 2012

and bless you for it :-)
Big hugs from London
Maria xx

bowlds by bowlds 21 Feb 2012

Thank you Maria.
Cathy

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by lflanders 21 Feb 2012

Your designs are lovely! I do think that if the software is availabe to all that purchase it, that more and more of these will appear online for free and for sale. I am also sure that each person will have a different outlook as to what shows through on the design. This part of the embroidery business is out of my reach. I am doing good to even get a design sewn for the last few yrs. I am sorry that any confusion has come these designs. I can look and tell the difference in the style between yours and others. The digitizer is what makes the differences in the designs. If it had been me doing this, it would most likely been all cows and roosters. Hehe Linda

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basketkase by basketkase 21 Feb 2012

LOL Linda....cows & roosters are good too

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by pldc 21 Feb 2012

It's like apples & oranges they are both fruit & both beautiful, but that's where their simularities end! I enjoy both apples & oranges!Isn't that ok too?

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basketkase by basketkase 21 Feb 2012

Yes, it is Loralye..variety is the spice of life!!

terriweistra by terriweistra 21 Feb 2012

Well said Loralye :)

noah by noah 21 Feb 2012

excellent :):)

juanitadenney by juanitadenney 22 Feb 2012

Yes well said, I also like apples and oranges.

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by rmj8939 21 Feb 2012

I really wish that people could just get along with one another and not have hurt feelings etc. Life is too short for turmoil. I love all the designs and appreciate what is offered to us that will not ever be doing the designs ourselves. Each one is a individual design like no other no matter how they are done. Ruthie

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basketkase by basketkase 21 Feb 2012

Ruthie, I couldn't agree more...I did not start this & would certainly like it to end......there are far more horrible things going on in this world..PEACE!

edithfarminer by edithfarminer 21 Feb 2012

I say AMEN to that

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by aleene 21 Feb 2012

I love your designs! How can it be that when you use your software that is standard when sold that some one could think that when you make a design it is theirs instead of you working with the stitches and learning how to put them in your own designs. Keep up the work that you are doing! Aleene

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basketkase by basketkase 21 Feb 2012

Thanks, Aleene.....my point exactly, I AM NOT stealing designs....these are MY OWN designs made with ripple stitches from MY OWN software that I paid for with MY OWN money $2000 and I should not be told I cannot use this stitch because someone else is using it!!

janetedna by janetedna 21 Feb 2012

Hear, Hear. Jan

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by gerryvb 21 Feb 2012

oh dear I hope this is all a misunderstanding. I think it's wonderful people can make lovely designs. And I want to thank every Cutie that offers them in the DBC section.so my thanks to you too!

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basketkase by basketkase 21 Feb 2012

Thanks, Gerry, unfortunately there is no misunderstanding, it has been made perfectly clear through inuendos

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by ansalu 21 Feb 2012

Hopefully Sue and mops continue to give us lessons for embird and complement one another with their wonderful dolls and handpuppets. I love the way they cooperate and every design has still their own handwrite :o)
chin up! Better times will come...
Greetings, Bettina

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basketkase by basketkase 21 Feb 2012

As digitizing should be, sharing & learning together. I think it was Martine that tried to teach me FSL, but I just couldn't get it.....still haven't.. LOL

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by lique 21 Feb 2012

Vicky
I am using The Bernina ripple stitch in my designs as well and agree with you there is no problem with sharing this with other people. It is not as the artwork is been duplicated. Does this mean we can not use fill stitch or any other stitch as other people have used them before?
Keep it going!

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basketkase by basketkase 21 Feb 2012

That is the only point I was trying to make and no one seemed to be understanding me!! Thank you for your input!!!

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by leenova54 21 Feb 2012

I am so sorry to hear that someone made a mistake in what to call your designs. I have to admit, though I do not call them the same thing or refer to them as the same I do put them in the same file when I download them because I think the ripple flowers would look beautiful in the same embroidery scene as the optical birds and flowers and I plan to use them together and I will post this same message in Diane's post

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leenova54 by leenova54 21 Feb 2012

Sorry, it's Diana's post.

basketkase by basketkase 21 Feb 2012

Debra...absolutely use my designs any way you wish & I am in no way offended by what anyone calls them either..whimsy, ripple, whatever..LOL..I am just here to share a talent & knowledge and friendship I have NO other agenda...Hugs..Vicki

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by terriweistra 21 Feb 2012

Drat, I forgot to include the HUG!!!!!

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by terriweistra 21 Feb 2012

I am sending you a great big hug!!!! Cos I reckon you deserve it!! Be strong love, you are a kind and generous spirit :)

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by anangel 21 Feb 2012

Vicki,
I do not digitize, and do not begin to understand the process. Your post about the ripple stitch was taken by me as an informative statement to encourage learning and being helpful, not invading someone else's artistry & personal style of digitizing. I would think that designs can be similar, but unique as the digitizer's own fingerprints and skills to create.

Your and Diana's designs are so lovely and appreciated. You both have your own personal rendition in digitizing and tastes, which goes into
the making of most special designs. I have anxiously looked forward to seeing the next creation from each of you! Thanks to both of you for your generosity to us Cuties in abundantly sharing of your time and craftmanship. The Lord has blessed you two with great talents!
Hugs,
Angel

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by jofrog2000 21 Feb 2012

Now I'm really confused. I never thought of your designs as poaching on hers. You took what she showed and, having the same software, used it. Someone else (the software designers) had to come up with the ability, and I'm sure they want someone to do it. I thought there were people claiming Diana's specific designs as their own.
TreeTrunk designs always had her cross stitch up on a black background, the better to show the stitches, as well as others. Mola designs, native designs, anything just colorlines looks better on black.
Sigh. Love your flowers, thank you for all you have given. Hugs. JO

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by bumblebee 21 Feb 2012

Vicki,
I thank you for your lovely flower series. I know your work is different from Dianas. It is using a digitizing program tool available to those who own this software. I've seen different ripple designs out there and no two are alike. Just like 2 digitizers come up with different versions of the same clipart. If manually punched they don't look alike. I don't understand the underpinnings of all this but it seems logical that more people will learn and improve on this technique and the industry will grow. Even the technique of ITH designs is different with every digitizers. I am ever so grateful for your hard work and beautiful contributions.

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by ansalu 21 Feb 2012

Vicky I was not aware that Diana's post was about you. I have seen your flowers and never thought of a copy of somebody elses work. Just thought that your teamwork with her inspired you to do some designs in this style (have to admit that I like your animals more). What a pity that she feels offended...
Greetings, Bettina

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basketkase by basketkase 21 Feb 2012

Thank you Bettina, I was inspired & now feel deflated....what a shame.....I too like my animals and will soon get back to them......

crafter2243 by crafter2243 21 Feb 2012

I have to say the same thing as Bettina. I had no idea the reference was about you. I guess I should have read all posts before commenting.

noah by noah 21 Feb 2012

I feel the same love love love your designs please be encouraged with love,hugs and many many thanks hugs carolyn

holly12 by holly12 21 Feb 2012

I also have to say I had no idea that she was talking about you.I am very sorry this has happened. I love both of your designs and never felt you were copying her or anyone else. Hope you can get through because we all love you & your designs. Arlene

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by edithfarminer 21 Feb 2012

Vicky, I am but a novice, however as far as I can see or read is that you explained the technique to be in the Bernina software. this hould than be available to all who purchases this software.
You further only stated that it is several techniques, so that to me is not giving away the secrets what surely must come with a lot of time and skill I would have thought.
Personally I think we are very lucky to have had both of you to give us those lovely designs so generously and I hope you might feel to contine to do so. Bless you all. Hugs to all edith

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basketkase by basketkase 21 Feb 2012

You are correct, Edith. Anyone who purchases this software has the right to create ripple stitches.......and a hug back to you

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