Lynn, I am so sorry to hear this. If I have to design a logo, I ask for a desposit. (They are told that if the order is over 10 the deposit is taken off the total.) I do not give them the stitch out either, or a print out of my design. They can come and view it and then place the order As I had done a few designs from e-mail requests before and after I have spent all the time working on it, they then say they don't need it any longer, or they give some other excuse.
Yes we all learn from our mistakes.
Thanks, Yvonne. We all learn from our mistakes. I now know what to do the next time.Thanks to all the info I recieved here on Cute. Hugs Lynn.
Put your name across the middle of the design so that they can't copy it!!! So sorry this happened to you and I believe in Karma! Send him a bill for your time and work and the designs. Hugs Dawn
Hmmmm--start selling the design to the public on etsy or wherever people post stuff for sale. Everyone can buy this club's supposed exclusive design. Bet they will complain if everyone can have their exclusive design. Might also be a way to establish your copyright.
This sucks! I am so sorry. His attitude makes me wonder if he knew what he was doing. And wouldn't the 'emb company' that made it know the laws? I'm thinking you have a lawsuit on your hands.
Please don't let this ruin things for you. There is always some out there ready to pounce. There is a wealth of information here on Cute that I'm sure could suggest a way to handle these situations and cover your own back at the same time. Good Luck and know we are all thinking of you!
So sorry Lynn, there are so many dishonest people out there in the world. I do believe we reap what we sow & sooner or later he'll get his comeuppance one way or another./Lillian
I am so sorry to hear that this happened to you. You don't deserve to be taken advantage of. I would go to the embroidery company and tell them what he did. He should know that just isn't right.
I am so sorry to hear this has happened to you too!
Some people are just mongrels, with no principles at all.
There is a lot of copyright theft in this industry and it just isn't worth getting upset about, I'm afraid. It will do you more harm than the actual deed did.
I do most of my work online and have learnt only to send pictures of the finished work and when you never hear from them again you know they have gone elsewhere, for whatever reason.
Cheer up, no digitiser is immune from this type of thing.
hugs n roses, Meganne
Thanks for your great and helpful comments. Hugs Lynn
A rotten experience, but chances are you're better off without the business of people like him. I bet he gave the company grief over every little detail as well. Good on you, chalking that one up to experience.
What a jerk
You got that right. Oh well, moving on.
So sorry to hear this...Remember though...Karma follows us...and sometime down the line..it will come back to bite em in the butt...Try not to dwell on it and just chalk it up to a lesson learned..you are a great person and remember that karma follows you as well ..you did a good deed for someone and it will be repaid to you in another way...(((Bear Hugs ))) and a flower to cheer you!
Thanks for your lovely comments. I really appreciate them Hugs Lynn.
I know how you feel. A couple of years ago I was working with a lion and lamb design for a company logo to use for company t-shirts for a museum near by. Meganne and Ricky helped me with the lion and lamb part and I worked on the letters and words and sizing and placement. I worked on it for days and stitched out all these sample designs to show the owner. I was treated very rudely and not even thanked for all my hard work. The owner just told me that this was not at all what she had in mind. Meganne and Rickey had even gone to the museum website and looked at the artwork on it and used the owners ideas. I guess that experience taught me a lesson and I know how disappointed you must be. Kay
I feel so bad for you. I know what it is like to be taken advantage of. Vent any time we are here for you! Suzanne
Thanks, Suzanne. Thats why I love this site. There are so many friends here. One for all and all for one.That the Cute site. Hugs Lynn
I am so sorry that happened to you. I would personally send the person a huge for bill and make sure to add alittle extra for pain and suffering. Write right on the paper you send him... estimate is.. add the amount that you would have made off of the design. Just a thought!
I have not had this happen to me but I have heard it from others. I did have a guy who brought a pencil drawing of his truck and a photo of it to me to digitize for him I spent 16 hours on it because of the poor quality image, I had to use the photo not the pencil drawing, he came to look at the stitch out and told me it was not what he wanted. I have since learned to say no I can't digitize that image. Not because I can't but because of the time it takes to digitize poor quality images. This will be the same for your, it is frustrating and makes you angry but you have learned a lesson now and it won't happen to you again.
Thanks, Alice. It was a good lesson for sure. Hugs Lynn
Oh Lynn, I'm so sorry that happened to you. I know how you feel, as I had part of a book I wrote copied into another book. It's horrible, after all work you have done. Chin up, my friend. Love and blessings, Yoriko
Yoriko, so lovely to hear from you. Thanks for commenting. Take care. Hugs Lynn
What a horrible, inconsiderate, selfish jerk! All that work to have it stolen. How did you find out? If you know the other store, maybe put a bug in their ear that you "know who they are and saw what they did" kind of message. I guess I'm venting for you but that is just soooooooooo rude.
I saw it on the jacket. It is water under the bridge now, but I definately won't let it happen again.
How terrible. I bet you were beside yourself when you saw it. Hugs to you
Yes I was. Thanks for commenting.
Sorry, I will be mad too, but remember when do wrong things to people, bad things comeback to you too. So dont worry his day is coming too.
It's a good lesson learned for the future.
There are laws about this. He violated your intellectual copyright. I would have my friend, the attorney, write him a nasty letter. He should have to pay for his dishonesty.
Pat in Colorado
I just know not to do that again.
I would be so angry, that is so dishonest!
I won't let it happen again.
Lynn, I am so sorry this happened to you.
I will be very angry. I call that dishonesty!
Dishonest with a capital D.
Wow, the nerve of some people! I would be very angry too! Hope this never happens again!
It won't. I know now how to handle this.
Ohhhh how awful!
Sadly some ppl have no scruples so I'm guessing that even tho he knows YOU did all the designing, I doubt he's feeling one iota of guilt and still wearing that jacket without a 2nd thought. A friend of mine sends her images to a chinese email addy and gets things digitised for around 3USD - perhaps your guy did this too..? (Someone still had to stitch them locally to him even if this was the case.) What a ratbag either way. :(
I guess I'm learning from you: If anyone ever asks me to digitise something for them, the sewn out design AND the printout stays in my possession .. if now isnt a convenient time to view my creation, then I'll come back when it is. xXx
Yes, we all have learned something today.Thanks for commenting.
I agree with below, it was your original design, owned by you and the other company should NOT have copied it without first enquiring as to whom the copyright, if any, belonged to. I am sorry this has happened to you. SOmetimes we just want to forget out mistakes and if you do, thats ok, if not contact your attorney.
Best of Luck
Ans remember, we have to make a mistake to learn from it, so all is not lost.
I guess the old saying that we learn from our mistakes is true. I sure did.
How horrible. This has provoked a discussion between my husband and myself. It is the first post he has read here. This has happened to him in the past. You acted in good faith. Spanishpeach and sciencewidow have given good points. Each country has different laws. If the design is an original by you someone has stolen it. You could contact the club and tell them this and you could let the firm who 'stole' your design know that they have broken copyright. This company is obviouly lacking in eithics and the rest of the club probably are not aware of what has happened. Let them all know.
I recently heard of someone who was asked to sew a design out, which they duely did for the prospective customer to then be told they had broken the copyright of the owner ie the person who asked them to embroider in the first place.
Take care and thinking of you
it's awful if something happens to you! I think you made the right decission if ou do it next time with the copy
I have had something simular with a drawing I made for the cover of a schoolmagazin( I was in the schoolboard then).I did it for free. And than about 5 years later they have that drawing as their logo.and it's everywhere : on the schoolbuilding on all the paperwork .They never asked my permission. They say : they didnt know anymore who made it :(
Sorry this happen to you. Thanks for commenting.
Oh Lynn, I really feel for you. I know how it feels too.A real bummer.What I do now is a printout and if they want to place an order then I will do an actual stitchout when they place a deposit.Hope it doesn't stop you sharing your talent with other prospective customers.Always get one bad apple in the cart.Chin up girl, you are better than that. Hugs, maria.
Have noticed lots of designs have a watermark logo through the design which makes it harder to copy since they would have to meticulously erase the watermark to copy the design. Just adding your name to the bottom can still be covered up and copied.
hugs & sparkes to you from minicow
I'm so sorry, i have been fortunate to enjoy all of what cuties has to offer, addicted now, when i'm feeling a little down you cheer me up with your messages and designs. I'm maddened that someone would sink so low as to steal from you, i hope he reads all of the message and feels very ashamed. x
I appreciate all the hard work and creativity that all the designers/digitizers put into their work.I feel terrible for you!That man will never be able to enjoy wearing the jacket because of the stolen work - it's like he's walking around with a burden on his back.I wonder if the other club members are aware of his lack of character.Shame on him !!!
The one member is my neighbour. He was the one who brought the guy to me. I saw his jacket yesterday. Right away I told him that was my design. He didn't say anything. No more work done for him.
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and sorry they scamped your design.
oh man that is sew not right! I wish there was a way of preventing things like this, but I think there will always be people out there that will take advantage of kindness! Thank you for warning others about this, maybe it will prevent it from happening to one of us! I'm sorry too that you had to find out about it like this. I too believe in Karma.
It is a good lesson learned.
I totaly understand how you feel. What goes around, comes around, Lynn.
The same thing happen to me when i first started. It's very disappointing and you feel so hurt and mad and sad and grrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
Totally unethical tatics both on the part of the club member and the other place who did the design. Sorry to hear this happened to you. Hugs, Mary
Um, that is just theft.
It won't happen again. I have learned a good lesson.
Well how tacky is that!! People are so selfish these days. AND the other embroidery place should not have used the design unless it was free & they had gotten it on the internet themselves. I think I might go to the the other place and POLITELY let them know it was my design. Hopefully they didn't realize that??
I don't know where they got it done, but if I do find out I will go there.
Are you serious Lynn! What a character. I've been taken several times by people, but I get wiser after each occurance. :-(
It was quite a surprise to actually see the jacket with the design on it. All I said was, "you used my design", there was no response.
Liars and cheats become so good at what they do, I'm not surprised his reaction was unresponsive. You do have legal recourse Lynn, but that could end up a bigger headache. Shame on him for doing what he did.