by crafter2243 Moderator 08 Sep 2019


As I am reading issues with windows 10 I thought I would mention what I do. When I purchase a new computer I keep the old one. The old one is disconnected from the internet, so Microsoft can not automatically up date and mess up my programs. They also serve as additional back ups. Right now I have 3 Laptops. One I am working with on a daily basis, and 2 others that have older version of Windows (XP and windows 7). This has worked for me and I was able to keep older programs I cherished that no longer worked with Windows 10. Since the older ones never go on the Internet I do not worry about Microsoft's support. Just a thought. Yes my oldies are slow, but so am I.


by gramsbear 12 Sep 2019

That's what happened to me. I definitely Loved my 4D Emb program and when Win 10 added 10 to my computer, my 4D didn't work anymore. I tried to re download on a Win 7, but I guess I had D/Led too many times, it would not work, so I sympathize with all of youns!!! Hugs, Judy...

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crafter2243 by crafter2243 12 Sep 2019

I am sorry you lost your 4D Emb program. I personally was lucky because of my still working old systems. It is frustrating however to having to bounce around from one to the other in order to accomplish a task. They always add a feature and take one away.

by sbott54 11 Sep 2019

I have Windows 7 and hesitate to upgrade to a new PC for just the reasons you mention. I don't do anything fancy other than keep files on the PC and print patterns and design templates. I'm comfortable with the old (it matches my age! Ha.Ha

crafter2243 by crafter2243 11 Sep 2019

I know what you mean, however Microsoft will no longer support W7 pretty soon. If hackers find a flaw in it to get into your computer, Microsoft will no longer fix it. I am so ready to get a Apple Computer if they were not so expensive

sbott54 by sbott54 12 Sep 2019

Thanks for mentioning their plan not to offer support for Windows 7 any longer. I understand how obsolete the operating system is now, so I plan to not use my PC on the Internet. Instead, I will use my IPad. Cuties are always so helpful!

by cfidl 11 Sep 2019

I have mine also, but have not gotten to them yet. I need to as there is a program that only works on the old one, as you said.

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crafter2243 by crafter2243 11 Sep 2019

That is the part that frustrates me. One has paid good money and in the old days they were not exactly cheap and then these programs are worthless.

by lildoll2 10 Sep 2019

i am even slower, i am not sure what you mean about keeping your files, i thought you had to keep your computer connected to the internet to keep your files and use them ?? can i disconect it from the internet and still use it to put the designs on a card or thumb drive ?? and also keep adding new designs to it ?? what planet am i on !! i am way behind .. please answer soon , my computer has been acting up, i have been thinking of getting another one, but every one says that #10 is a nitemare, thanks doris

AuntAnnie by AuntAnnie 11 Sep 2019

Once a file is stored on the hard drive, it permanently resides there (until your computer crashes or is deleted by the user). The files can be accessed over and over as long the computer remains serviceable. Access to the internet only is required to download new files from your favorite websites.

crafter2243 by crafter2243 11 Sep 2019

AuntAnnie answered your question. As a matter of fact anytime I am not on the internet I shut down access to it.
Just less of a chance someone to snoop in it. Since your computer is acting up I would advise making a back up. Most likely your designs are in the download folder

by shirley124 09 Sep 2019

You sound just like me. I will be buying a new laptop in the coming weeks so then I will have 3 laptops. the other 2 will be backups with programs that will not run on 10. I also keep designs backed up on old laptop and external drive. Better safe than sorry. Hugs

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crafter2243 by crafter2243 10 Sep 2019

2 peas in a pod

by AuntAnnie 08 Sep 2019

Me, too! I have my old XP computer and have used it to read a floppy disc.

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crafter2243 by crafter2243 08 Sep 2019

I have programs on my XP that will no longer work on W10 and the companies are no longer in business. My brother who is in commercial art and had 1000 of files that were lost when Microsoft updated his computer. Ha ha, He did not listen to his older sister,

by sebsews 08 Sep 2019

Great idea! I'm slower now too!

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crafter2243 by crafter2243 08 Sep 2019

Comes along with age, wether computers or people. :-)

by gerryvb 08 Sep 2019

that is what I was planning to do. My pc has windows 7. And when that is no longer supported I will no longer connect it with the internet.And my laptop is apple, that one I will use in future for the internet. So yes I agree with you !!

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crafter2243 by crafter2243 08 Sep 2019

I am so sick of Microsoft. Should I have to purchase a new laptop it will be a Apple.

by asterixsew Moderator 08 Sep 2019

Great idea and one I do in someways as I have designs 'saved' on a couple of old laptops.

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crafter2243 by crafter2243 08 Sep 2019

I think of the older computers as backup storage. My hobby room is upstairs, so I make a back up on a external hard drive and then transport data to the computer upstairs. Makes for 2 different storage places should one fail and I do not have to go downstairs for embroidery files.

by graceandham 08 Sep 2019

I thought I was weird and out of step to do this. Glad it works for someone else.

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crafter2243 by crafter2243 08 Sep 2019

Ha, ha I prefer to think of it as smart and not weird.

by dailylaundry 08 Sep 2019

It has been a chore to get everything working on my new laptop - but, thank goodness everything is working! But, my old laptop is toast. Otherwise - it would make a great backup! I do like your idea though - as long as your older computers are working. Isn't it like jumping through hoops to get a new laptop up and running with our old programs!! Hugs to you, Laura

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crafter2243 by crafter2243 08 Sep 2019

Once toast there is no help :-)