by pennyhal2 01 Jun 2019

Both my embroidery machine and my software add tie on/off stitches. I can't make them not do this. This results in these big knots on the back of things. So, I ironed Cloud on the back which worked, except it came off in the wash. Does anyone know of a product that will actually stay on?


by jofrog2000 03 Jun 2019

So, without tie off stitches, how do you expect the thread to not unravel? Aren't they necessary? I do have a good distance selected for jump stitches (the long ones will tie off), because I would rather cut the jumps than have all that mess on the back.

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pennyhal2 by pennyhal2 05 Jun 2019

I want tie on/off stitches, but not do many of them. I have the Destiny2. I have Embird and I cannot set the tie on/off stitches to 0. The Destiny will not let me turn off or reduce the tie on/off stitches either. So, there is a build up of knots on the back. I'm not very excited about having to iron Cloud on the back of things and would not really be appropriate for things like napkins. I'll check the Embird group and see if they have a solution.

by asterixsew Moderator 02 Jun 2019

Hi and could I suggest that you let us know details about your embroidery machine and the software that you use? The first time I ironed a cloud backing onto a tee it came off and on further attempts found I hadn't used a hot enough iron. Saw some tees that I had embroidered for my grand daughters last year that have been much washed and the cloud is firmly in place after frequent washing

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pennyhal2 by pennyhal2 05 Jun 2019

Thanks! That is probably my problem. I used an old iron.

by dragonflyer 02 Jun 2019

Not sure which machine you have, but most will have a setting to turn on or off the tie off feature. I , too am puzzled about the Cloud washing off...I don't actually use the product called "Cloud" but a similar one by Pellon called Easy Knit. I have used it for years and have never had a problem with it. The only thing I can think of is that you did not get your iron hot enough when you applied it.

by babash 02 Jun 2019

Don't know what machine you have but think it should be either off or on selection. Maybe someone will come along and help with that. As for Cloud did you have the iron hot enough? I know the first time I used it I was scared it would melt onto my iron.

by crafter2243 Moderator 01 Jun 2019

I have no answer about the tie off, but I am puzzled about Cloud coming off. I cover a lot of tag residue on the back of my shirts (Do not like scratching) and it stays.